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MrNova

Hello

 

I'm new to the forum and just wandered if anybody would be interested in a website I recently created.

 

I am the great grandson of Jack Lock, a soldier who fought at Gallipoli with the 4th Battalion Norfolk Regiment. He recorded a diary of his time in the campaign and it this, around which I have built the website. It includes a transcript and scans of the diary, a short biography and a timeline of his deployment during World War One.

 

The site can be found here: http://wardiary.novawebs.co.uk. Hopefully it may be of some interest to users of the forum and any feedback would be welcomed.

 

Many thanks.

 

John

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Dust Jacket Collector

Well done, John. A fitting tribute to your Great Grandfather. A very clear site that works well and is easy to navigate. Congratulations.

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MrNova

Thank you for your kind words Dust-Jacket-Collector.

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woronora

Hi John

 

Congratulations on a great site - a very fitting tribute to your grandfather.

 

Cheers

 

John

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trajan

Good job there mate!

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wandererpaul

What a beautiful way to remember a brave soldier and family man.

 

A wonderful tribute to him.

 

so easy to read and navigate too. 

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QGE

Very nice.

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AndyR

Hi

I wonder if the 9th August landing place could be (Kanli) Keupra Dere which is in the centre of the southern section of http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205277338 and is presumably at the south end of A Beach.

I also wonder if 19th August sketch could be looking north from Kiretch Tepe into Gulf of Saros - of course it's a complete guess but the 1/4th Norfolk seem to have been in that area at the time as far as I can tell and the coastline looks right to me and there was a single destroyer (Foxhound?) that patrolled there.

Andy

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QGE

9th Aug is possibly KURIJA DERE (also  known as KOJA DERE). It is the title of the 1:20,000 scale map covering the ANZAC area running north to Suvla Bay it covers the area of A Beach running into Nibrunesi Point one of the horns of Suvla bay.

 

The war diaries have disembarkation date as 10th Aug. 

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AndyR

Kurija Dere certainly looks like the diary entry to me

Andy

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QGE

I have the 4th Bn War Dairy transcribed if you would like to see it on this thread I can post...given your forbear's rather short service, only a sliver will be relevant, however the offer is there. MG

 

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MrNova

Thank you all again for your messages and especially AndyR and QGE for some brilliant information. I can see now that the diary reads 'Kurija Dere' and have changed the website to reflect this.

 

Thanks as well QGE, for the kind offer of your 4th Battalion War Diary transcript, I would be really interested to see that.

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Posted (edited)

GALLIPOLI DIARY 1/4th Bn NORFOLK REGT (TF) 1915

 

29-Jul-15 LIVERPOOL. 

Regt embarked on HMTS "AQUITANIA".  During this period troops engaged in guards, physical training, fatigues etc

 

30-Jul-15 – 4-Aug-15 AT SEA

As Above.

 

5-Aug-15  LEMNOS ISLE. 

Regt arrived.  During this period troops engaged in guards, physical training, fatigues etc

 

Saturday, August 07, 1915

No diary entry.

 

Sunday, August 08, 1915

No diary entry.

 

Monday, August 09, 1915  LEMNOS ISLE

01:00.  Disembarked from HMTS "AQUITANIA" and re-embarked on SS "OSMANIEH".  During this period troops engaged in guards, physical training, fatigues etc.  15:00 OSMANIEH departed from LEMNOS.  IMBROS 18:00. Arrived.

 

Tuesday, August 10, 1915 IMBROS

13:20.  Departed.  SUVLA BAY

15:30.  Arrived.  SUVLA BAY from 18:00.  Troops disembarked from OSMANIEH.  A-B (3 Pl C Coy).

 

Wednesday, August 11, 1915 SUVLA BAY. 

Troops engaged in fatigue work, ie, unloading ammunition stores from boats.  18:00 D Coy and (1 Pl C Coy) disembarked from OSMANIEH.

 

Thursday, August 12, 1915 SUVLA BAY

07:00.  Regt proceeded to reserve trenches.  Evening: Regt prepared and advanced to action.

 

Friday, August 13, 1915

 

No diary entry.

 

Saturday, August 14, 1915 SUVLA BAY

Morning.  Enemy commenced shelling base camp.

 

Sunday, August 15, 1915

No diary entry.

 

Monday, August 16, 1915 SUVLA BAY

15:00.  2 Officers and 156 OR arrived from HMT "MINNETONKA"  (These were left behind on "AQUITANIA" to form first reinforcement).

 

Tuesday, August 17, 1915

No diary entry.

 

Wednesday, August 18, 1915

No diary entry.

 

Thursday, August 19, 1915

No diary entry.

 

20-Aug-15

No diary entry.

 

21-Aug-15

SUVLA BAY 03:00.  Sgt VICKARY and 4 OR sick, left on board "MINNETONKA" rejoined Regt.

 

22 – 27-Aug-15

No diary entry.

 

28-Aug-15

SUVLA BAY

 03:00.  Regt moved to a new resting camp (LALA BABA) on opposite side of Bay.

 

29-Aug-15

No diary entry.

 

30-Aug-15 LALA BABA

15:30.  Regt moved to "A" BEACH, engaged in fatigue duties.

 

31-Aug-15 LALA BABA

No diary entry.

 

1-Sep-15 LALA BABA

02:00.  Regt returned from fatigue on "A" BEACH.  21:00 Regt received orders to "Stand-To".

 

2-Sep-15 LALA BABA

No diary entry.  Casualties: 2

 

3-Sep-15 LALA BABA

22:00.  Regt moved to KABAK KUYU.  Casualties: 1

 

4-Sep-15 KABAK KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: 2

 

5-Sep-15 KABAK KUYU

19:30.  A-B Coys advanced to trenches.  Casualties: 3

 

6-Sep-15 KABAK KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: 2

 

7-Sep-15 KABAK KUYU

02:30.  C-D Coys relieved A-B Coys.  Casualties: 4

 

8-Sep-15 KABAK KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: 5

 

9-Sep-15 KABAK KUYU

20:30.  Regt removed to KAIAGAK AGHIAL.  2 Coys of Regt in trenches at one time, being relieved every 24 hrs.  Casualties: 6

 

10-Sep-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

No diary entry.  Casualties: 1

 

11-Sep-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

No diary entry.  Casualties: 6

 

12-Sep-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

 20:30.  Regt moved to rest camp at KABAK  KUYU, relieved by 1/5th SUFFOLK Regt. 

Casualties: 5

 

13-Sep-15 KABAK  KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: 4

 

14-Sep-15 KABAK  KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: 6

 

15-Sep-15 KABAK  KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: 14;

1 Officer Killed Capt B M HUGHES.

 

16-Sep-15 KABAK  KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: 7

 

17-Sep-15 KABAK  KUYU

No diary entry. 

 

18-Sep-15 KABAK  KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: 2

 

19-Sep-15 KABAK  KUYU

No diary entry.

 

20-Sep-15 KABAK KUYU

19:00.  Regt moved to KAIAJIK AGHALA and C and D Coys went into trenches relieving 1/5th SUFFOLK Regt.

 

21-Sep-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

No diary entry. 

 

22-Sep-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

No diary entry.  Casualties: 2

 

23-Sep-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

No diary entry.  Casualties: 1

 

24-Sep-15

No diary entry.  Casualties: 5

 

25-Sep-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

19:00.  A and B Coys relieved C and B in trenches.  Casualties: 1

 

26-Sep-15  KAIAJIK AGHALA

20:00.  Regt removed to rest camp at KALAK [KINFER?], relieved by 1/5th Bn Suffolk Regt.

 

27-Sep-15

No diary entry.

 

28-Sep-15

No diary entry. 

 

29-Sep-15

No diary entry.  Casualties: 1

 

30-Sep-15 KALAK [KINFER?]

19:00.  Regt moved to KAIAJIK AGHALA and A and B Coys went into trenches relieving 1/5th Bn Suffolk Regt.  Casualties: 1

 

 

1-Oct-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

No diary entry.  Casualties: 3

 

2-Oct-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

No diary entry.  Casualties: 2

 

3-Oct-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

05:00.  C and D Coys relieved A and B in trenches.  Casualties: 1

 

4-Oct-1515 KAIAJIK AGHALA

No diary entry.  Casualties: 5

 

5-Oct-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

19:30.  Regt moved to rest camp at KABAK KUYU relieved by 1/5th SUFFOLK Regt.  Casualties: 5

 

6-Oct-15 KABAK KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

7-Oct-15 KABAK KUYU

03:00.  6 Officers joined Bn as reinforcements.  Casualties: 1

 

8-Oct-15 KABAK KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: 1

 

9-Oct-15 KABAK KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: 1

 

10-Oct-15 KABAK KUYU

19:00.  Regt moved to KAIAJIK AGHALA into trenches to relieve 1/5th SUFFOLKS. 

KAIAJIK AGHALA: Strength 16 Officers; 388 OR (Rations).  15 Officers; 285 OR (Fighting).  Casualties: Nil

 

11-Oct-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA.

No diary entry.  Casualties: 4

 

12-Oct-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA.

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

13-Oct-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA.

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

14-Oct-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA.

 Letter of thanks from CO (15/10/15) sent to 22131 C/Sgt Maj A G WOOD, 3694 Sgt CRUMPTON, 1644 Pte J COLEMAN for voluntary work carried out in collecting derelict arms and equipment.  Casualties: Nil

 

15-Oct-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA.

No diary entry.  Casualties: 1

 

16-Oct-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

21:30.  Regt relieved by 6th ESSEX Regt and proceeded to rest camp KABAK KUYU.  Casualties: 1

 

17-Oct-15 KABAK KUYU. 

Strength:

14 Officers; 360 OR (Rations). 

13 Officers; 306 OR (Fighting). 

Casualties: Nil

 

18—23 Oct-15 KABAK KUYU. 

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

24-Oct-15 KABAK KUYU.

Strength:

13 Officers; 344 OR (Rations). 

12 Officers; 257 OR (Fighting). 

Casualties: Nil

 

25-Oct-1515 KABAK KUYU.

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

26-Oct-1515 KABAK KUYU.

02:30.  Regt moved into trenches to relieve NORFOLK YEOMANRY.  Casualties: Nil

 

27-Oct-15 TRENCHES

No diary entry.  Casualties: 1

 

28-Oct-15 TRENCHES

No diary entry.  Casualties: 3

 

29-Oct-15 TRENCHES

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

30-Oct-15 TRENCHES

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

31-Oct-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

04:00.  Regt moved to rest camp at KABAK KUYU. relieved by NORFOLK YEOMANRY.  KABAK KUYU..  2 Officers joined Bn as reinforcement.  Strength: 13 Officers; 317 OR (Rations).  13 Officers; 270 OR (Fighting).  Casualties: Nil

 

1-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU.

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

2-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU.

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

3-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU.

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

4-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU.

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

5-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU.

02:30.  Regt moved into trenches to KAIAJIK AGHALA to relieve the NORFOLK YEOMANRY.  Casualties: Nil.  KAIAJIK AGHALA.  Letter of thanks sent to the following CO for voluntary work carried out in collecting derelict arms and equipment: 2nd Lt J R GIDEON, 2430 Sgt H C BLYTH, 2418 Sgt C PITT, 2379 Pte E COOKE, Pte H PLUMSTEAD, 1848 Pte C[A?] ATKINS, 3999 Pte H[B?] BROWNE.  Casualties: Nil.

 

6—9 Nov-15

As Above.

 

10-Nov-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA.

04:00.  Regt moved to rest camp , KABAK KUYU, relieved by NORFOLK YEOMANRY.  Casualties: 1 man wounded

 

11- 14 Nov-15  KABAK KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

15-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU

02:30.  Regt moved into trenches at KAIAJIK AGHALA to relieve NORFOLK YEOMANRY.  Casualties: Nil

 

16- 19 Nov-15 KAIJIK AGHALA

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

20-Nov-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

04:00.  Regt moved to rest camp KABAK KUYU, relieved by NORFOLK YEOMANRY.  Casualties: Nil

 

21-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

22-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: 1 man wounded

 

23-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

24-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

25-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU.

02:30.  Regt moved into trenches at KAIAJIK AGHALA to relieve NORFOLK YEOMANRY.  Casualties: 1 man wounded

 

26-Nov-15 KAIAJIK AGHALA

19:00.  Regt moved to rest camp KABAK KUYU., relieved by NORFOLK YEOMANRY.  Casualties: 1 man killed

 

27-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU.

No diary entry.  Casualties: 1 man wounded

 

28-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU.

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

29-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU.

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

30-Nov-15 KABAK KUYU.

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

1-3   Dec-15 KABAK KUYU.

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

4-Dec-15 KABAK KUYU.

 Lt S J STEEL and 1 man proceeded to MUDROS in advance.  Casualties: Nil

 

5-Dec-15 KABAK KUYU.

No diary entry.  Casualties: 1 man wounded

 

6-Dec-15 KABAK KUYU.

18:45.  Regt moved to RESERVE GULLY, ANZAC, detailed to furnish fatigues and guards.  Lt R E BURWELL and 26 OR proceeded to MUDROS in advance.  Casualties: Nil

 

7-Dec-15 RESERVE GULLY ANZAC. 

Guards and fatigues cancelled owing to Regt receiving orders to embark for MUDROS the same night.  21:00: Part of Regt, Capt JEWSON, two Officers and 83 OR embarked for MUDROS leaving remainder in RESERVE GULLY, ANZAC.  Casualties: Nil

 

8-Dec-15 RESERVE GULLY ANZAC

21:00.  Remainder of Regt CO 7 Officers and 116 OR embarked for MUDROS.  Casualties: Nil

 

9-Dec-15 MUDROS ISLAND. 

Regt went into camp at PORTIANOS CAMP, MUDROS ISLAND.  Casualties: Nil

 

10-Dec-15 MUDROS ISLAND

20:30.  Tents struck and camp re-organised.  Regt embarked (11 Officers, 237 OR) on HMT VICTORIAN for ALEXANDRIA.  Casualties: Nil

 

11-18 Dec-15

No diary entry.  Casualties: Nil

 

19-Dec-15  HMT VICTORIAN. 

Arrived at ALEXANDRIA and Regt moved to Camp, SIDI BISH.  Casualties: Nil

 

20-Dec-15 SIDI BISH. 

Regt in camp at SIDI BISH Camp, during which time a progressive course of company training has been pursued.  Casualties: Nil

 

21-31 Dec-15

As Above.

Edited by QGE

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RJo

Is it possible please QGE to see the 4th Norfolks war diary from 1916 onwards?

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MrNova

Many thanks QGE for posting the transcript. That's brilliant information and very helpful. Thank you.

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QGE
14 hours ago, RJo said:

Is it possible please QGE to see the 4th Norfolks war diary from 1916 onwards?

 

I am afraid I only transcribed the diary for Gallipoli and not the dates later than Dec 1915.

 

The original diary will be at the National Archives UK.

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RJo

Thank you QGE for the transcription and the information - very helpful and interesting

 

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rob carman
On 6/23/2017 at 19:18, RJo said:

Thank you QGE for the transcription and the information - very helpful and interesting

 

I may be able to help you.  What are you after specifically?

 

Rob.

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RJo

Hi Bob

Thank you for the reply and apologies for tmy slow response. I was interested to find out mor information of what the 4th Norfolks did in Palestine.

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rob carman

I have not much on Caton that is useful I am afraid.

 

He is not mentioned at all in Petre's 1925 History of the Norfolk Regiment.  

 

Capt Caton became CO of D Coy on 3/6/1917 before Gaza I (Bn War Diary).  He is not mentioned again in the diary

 

Gaza II April 1917, MCs were announced well before Caton’s award was gazetted so I think he cannot have earned his at Gaza II. My guess is that it was a Gaza III award or, less likely, for D Company’s action at Stone Hill, 12/13th Dec.

 

Caton was not the last officer to leave Cairo in 1919.  He did not attend the first 4th Bn reunion dinner in Nov 1919 and was not a member of the newly reformed 4th Bn in 1920, whereas Jewson and Flatt remained active in the Norfolks until the 1930s.  If he rejoined after 1920 it would not be in my notes.

 

Although he may have been present during the Cairo riots, Caton was not the last officer to leave Cairo in 1919.  He did not attend the first 4th Bn reunion dinner in Nov 1919 and was not a member of the newly reformed 4th Bn in 1920, whereas Jewson and Flatt remained active in the Norfolks until the 1930s.  If he rejoined after 1920 it would not be in my notes.  

 

Harvey (1920, unpublished history) lists Caton and Eden Burrell as the only officers to land at Suvla and serve, unscathed, with the 4th Bn to the War’s end.

 

Can you post a photo of him?   

 

Rob.

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rob carman

It seems he did return to the battalion.  

catton retirment.PNG

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RJo

Thank you Rob.

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rob carman

RJo,

 

I am sorry.  My reply must have confused you.  I cut and pasted a reply to another Norfolk question.

 

I have a nearly 100 page typescript version of the 4th Bn War diary.  I am willing to copy or scan a page or two for you but not the whole thing.  Sorry.  

 

If you are starting from scratch, be aware the diary covers large periods of inaction.  Petre's 1925 History of the Norfolk Regiment Volume 2 is online.  I posted the link on this forum and it should be searchable.  It might be  a better place to start than the diary.

 

Rob.

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RJo

OK Rob - thank you  for that, Ill follow the link

Regards Roger

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