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Steven Broomfield

"Sword of the North"

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CSMMo   
CSMMo

Although Sword of the North is a wonderful book, I have been told by people who knew the folks involved that it is not entirely accurate.  In particular, the bits about the Ross & Cromarty Mountain Battery, 4th Highland Mountain Brigade were the subjects of these comments.  The book, "Last Warrior Band" if you can find it and "Gael Force on Gallipoli" are impeccably researched (both by Colin Scott Mackenzie, whose father fought with the Ross Battery and later commanded it). The inaccuracies aren't enough to shelve SOTN and the photos are priceless, but caution should be used. As a book written shortly after the war it was a labor of love and a tribute to the Scottish soldiers that still has a great deal of value.

 

Mike Morrison

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Steven Broomfield   
Steven Broomfield

Mike - I don't doubt all you say. Indeed, many years of reading hagiographic 'histories' written soon after the events have led me to believe nothing. But I can still enjoy the 'Ripping Yarns'-style writing. ;)

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Steven,   Have you tried getting your public library to do a search to see if they can borrow one for you from one of the  libraries they have arrangements with ?   Have mine doing this now and should have an answer by mid-week next. 

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Well that was quick and deadly.  Answer is no loaners available.  Closest one is in Chicago (!!!) and available only on site, by appointment only, on select days.  Maybe we can all chip in and buy a copy to pass around, sort of a usage lottery ?  It'd be great to see those photos.

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On 7/16/2017 at 00:22, seaJane said:

It doesn't appear to have been deposited on copyright (unless all six of the copyright libraries have failed to catalogue it) and indeed none of the other 90 or so academic & special libraries covered by COPAC lists a copy either...

 

   Not quite.  COPAC lists copies at IWM, NLS, BL, Oxford(=Bodley), plus Aberdeen U., Edinburgh U, Leeds U and St Andrews U. There is a copy in the Mitchell Library, Glasgow also,not on COPAC.

       BL has more than one copy listed which suggests it is available via DSC for inter-library loan. Some of the surviving regional collecting schemes may have one available as well

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On 7/16/2017 at 06:31, Steven Broomfield said:

 

Think I might need to start saving. It will be an heirloom for the girls.

 

  Cheapest copy on Tinternet appears to be c.£164-ish, including postage. See another recent thread about how much GWF members are prepared to pay-this is modest.

 

      SB- The daughters could forgo their heirloom and just work as Uber drivers for a week or so to please their dear old dad with a surprise present in his dotage

  

        But there again- Where are Naval and Military when you want them?

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3 hours ago, voltaire60 said:

 

   Not quite.  COPAC lists copies at IWM, NLS, BL, Oxford(=Bodley), plus Aberdeen U., Edinburgh U, Leeds U and St Andrews U. There is a copy in the Mitchell Library, Glasgow also,not on COPAC.

       BL has more than one copy listed which suggests it is available via DSC for inter-library loan. Some of the surviving regional collecting schemes may have one available as well

That truly baffles me! I don't usually miss COPAC material.  It's very unforgiving of typos, though, so maybe I perpetrated one. Apologies for the misdirection, and thanks to v60 for putting me right :)

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5 hours ago, bif said:

Well that was quick and deadly.  Answer is no loaners available.  Closest one is in Chicago (!!!) and available only on site, by appointment only, on select days.  Maybe we can all chip in and buy a copy to pass around, sort of a usage lottery ?  It'd be great to see those photos.

Which photos in particular Bif... I may be able to arrange it.

Chris

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Dust Jacket Collector   
Dust Jacket Collector

There's a rather tatty and overpriced copy on eBay but they do show several pages from the book.

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4 hours ago, seaJane said:

That truly baffles me! I don't usually miss COPAC material.  It's very unforgiving of typos, though, so maybe I perpetrated one. Apologies for the misdirection, and thanks to v60 for putting me right :)

 

   Don't worry Jane-  I have simian fingers and do it all the time- that selfie of the happy monkey on Tinternet is because he knows he is better at typing than I am!

    

        Bif-there is a copy of the book in Toronto public libraries  as well- Time to plan your holidays. Do you speak Canadian?

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Steven Broomfield   
Steven Broomfield

Thanks everyone. I am prepared to wait for the right moment and the right copy.

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A rare book. I was speaking with someone the other day who is related to MacEchern. I will see if he can use his influence to get me a copy B)

 

I will have to quiz him again, I'm sure he said he remembers Dugald (who died 31/10/1946).  Just out of interest, MacEchern's brother Sergeant 139637 Hector MacEchern was reported missing on 18/11/1916 when serving with the 75th Battalion, CEF, though newspapers have him with Lovat's Scouts. He is commemorated on the Vimy Memorial.

 

Mike

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bif   
bif
9 hours ago, 4thGordons said:

Which photos in particular Bif

Anything in there re the Seaforth, please ?  PM if you need.

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bif   
bif
6 hours ago, voltaire60 said:

Do you speak Canadian?

Ya, heah der ?

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CSMMo   
CSMMo
On 9/13/2017 at 13:12, Steven Broomfield said:

Mike - I don't doubt all you say. Indeed, many years of reading hagiographic 'histories' written soon after the events have led me to believe nothing. But I can still enjoy the 'Ripping Yarns'-style writing. ;)

By all means, Steven.  Enjoy it. As I recall, however, it was almost encyclopedic in it's focus on units and who was in them. Lots of photos I haven't seen anywhere else and a couple of names I can't quite reconcile. But that didn't take away from the enjoyment.  Several years ago, there was a copy on the Internet on one of those sites that presented books that were out of copyright.  It had been scanned.  I can't find it today either.

Best of luck!

 

Mike Morrison 

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Steven Broomfield   
Steven Broomfield

Aha! Found a copy on the www at a price I am happy to pay.

 

Mrs Broomfield is giving it to me for my Seasonal gift in three months' time. All I have to do is let her know this.

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Dust Jacket Collector   
Dust Jacket Collector
5 hours ago, Steven Broomfield said:

Aha! Found a copy on the www at a price I am happy to pay.

 

Mrs Broomfield is giving it to me for my Seasonal gift in three months' time. All I have to do is let her know this.

Yes I noticed the number available on ABE had dropped by 1. I'm tempted by the copy in South Africa but it says there's a 'bite sized chunk ' missing from the front edge of the cloth which sounds like some rather serious damage to me.

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Steven Broomfield   
Steven Broomfield

This one was/is in the UK, in the Highlands, would you believe. I don't actually have it yet, as the vendor is away fishing, but I hope the deal is done.

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