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von Smallhausen

Ausies wearing sticks?

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Dear friends,

Have a problem with this photograph. Does anyone knows why these Aussies are wearing sticks, please.

I asked several persons, but didn't find an answer yet. Some people answered some sort of measuring sticks....???

With kind regards from Flanders,

Jef

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Officers carrying walking sticks?

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I'd go with measuring sticks, I read somewhere that a soldier doing trench work, had a set area marked out which he had to finish before being allowed to stop work.

 

Gerwyn

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Those with sticks also appear to be carrying something over their left shoulders. May be rifles but I'm not sure.

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Thank you for your answers, gents. Strange isn't it? I enlarged a detail....

Tony, I'm afraid I don't think these men are officers  and I'm wondering what they had to measure... the width of a trench ????

Jef

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I suppose that if the stick were used to measure the part of a trench to be dug by one man, then judging by the length of them, the hole would be about right for one man and his equipment. Might be a bit shallow if he used it for measuring depth though.

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That's right Tony. Have been googling... trench tools.... digging trenches ... etc. No sticks seen, so far.

kind regards,

Jef

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Sticks, Boche, Beating, for the use of.

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Does this help?

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Stick, signal flags for the use of of?

 

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Thank you for the answers, Gents. Maybe...?

Wondering if anyone has a manual of the Royal Engineers or Signal Corps ? Threre might be some info...?

kind regards,

Jef

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Signal flags seems likely though flagwagging in the Salient sounds like Blackadder`s painting in nomansland.:(

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ID: 13   Posted (edited)

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Either to poke jumbucks out of coolibah trees or something to hold his boiling billy.

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Probably from the 99th (Jolly Swagman`s) Bn, then?

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I know neither the sticks, the unit, nor the battlefield, but the AWM caption does give the date - 25 October 1917. Australians on the way to take up a front line

which may be of help

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ID: 17   Posted (edited)

5 hours ago, michaeldr said:

I know neither the sticks, the unit, nor the battlefield, but the AWM caption does give the date - 25 October 1917. Australians on the way to take up a front line

which may be of help

That's right, the end of the battle of Passchendale.  A friend of mine was thinking about dipsticks in order to find bodies in the mud????

Jef

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I`m not aware that the Aussies were engaged at 2nd Passchendaele?

Are you not convinced that they are signallers, von S?

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They are definitely not heliograph nor signals telescope tripods. They are too long and not thick enough. Signal flag sticks is a possibility but appears unlikely. THey are not wearing signallers armbands (wide blue and white stripe), noting that signallers often did not wear armbands.

 

If it is Ypres / the salient, then they could just be walking sticks for when the going gets bad.

Cheers

RT

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Infantry signallers wearing blue/white armbands? Surely only RE?

 

Fishing rrods?

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These are WW1 signallers. Assuming the men to be 5ft 8ins tall, I make the sticks to be 4ft long. I`m having trouble measuring the Aussies` sticks - anyone help?

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13 hours ago, Muerrisch said:

Infantry signallers wearing blue/white armbands? Surely only RE?

 

Fishing rrods?

Maybe? Are these brassards?

Jef

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ID: 23   Posted (edited)

I have to say, they look like semaphore flag sticks to me, but there's a distinct lack of visible flags. Usually the flags were carried complete in canvas cases weren't they? Aside from that, the sticks look the right length.

 

Here's a group photo of a sigs section in Palestine in 1917 compete with semaphore flags and heliograph outfits. I notice with interest that none of these men are wearing brassards.

Actual caption - "Informal portrait of Lieutenant L W Sutherland (centre) and unidentified signallers of the 1st Light Horse Regiment at Abu Ditta."  

AWM P00228.059 (https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C45286)

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I think I can see about 10 men in the OP carrying sticks - about the right number for a sigs section?

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Thank you Gentlemen, think I have to believe we see flag sticks.

Jef

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