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Mark Hone

Bury (Lancs) Virtual War Memorial

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harribobs
hiya mark,i would appreciate any pics of manchesters,ime going to the library again next week,so i will post any info and pics for you,bernard

I should add Bernard found the obit, I just have it now

well done that man! :P

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Mark Hone

Thanks folks, any info gratefully received. The real work on the memorial will start in the New Year, when we're back at the Fun Factory.

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harribobs
Thanks folks, any info gratefully received. The real work on the memorial will start in the New Year, when we're back at the Fun Factory.

email/pm me your email address again Mark and i'll forward it

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Spud Trevor

Mark,

I have the memorial plaque of Zacarias Openshaw (fine name) who is listed in the Bury and District Soldiers Memorial Book, Section 1916. If of interest I could photograph and e.mail.

Regards,

Spud

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shinglma
Bill,

On the Bolton front, could you possibly have a look for Bury Grammar School old boy, Rifleman W.D. (Dennis) Lauria, 8th King's Royal Rifle Corps, who was killed in the German attack on Hooge on 30th July 1915? He is commemorated on the Menin Gate. He was from the Old Vicarage, Ainsworth Village, but appears to have had no Bury Times obituary and we have no photo of him. I was wondering if it might have appeared in a paper 'across the border' in Bolton.

Thanks,

Mark

If any details come to light on Lauria I would be interested as I'm researching the 8th KRRC. My great-uncle took part in the events in which Lauria was killed.

Mike

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Old Chap

Mark/Mike,

I'm off to Bolton archives tomorrow to check W.D.Lauria. I'll let you know if there's anything in the papers.

Regards,

Bill

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Mark Hone

Thanks Bill, Bernard, Spud and others for the help. I'm quite a way through with the 1916 boys now.

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shinglma
Mark/Mike,

I'm off to Bolton archives tomorrow to check W.D.Lauria. I'll let you know if there's anything in the papers.

Regards,

Bill

Bill

Much appreciated - look forward to any information you can provide.

Kind regards

Mike S

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Old Chap

Mark/Mike,

It was worth the wait.

Regards,

Bill

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Old Chap

Mark/Mike,

If either of you would like a larger scan pm me with e-mails.

Regards,

Bill

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Mark Hone

Fantastic-I love it when a plan comes together, as George Peppard used to say in the 'A-Team'. Thanks Bill for your hard work. I owe you a pint or two the next time you're over Bury way. A pity I didn't have the photograph when we visited Hooge on last year's school battlefields tour, but it will now be a great addition to our Virtual War Memorial.

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Old Chap

Mark,

You're welcome. The article appeard in the Bolton Journal, 6th August, 1915. Glad to have helped you with your excellent venture.

Regards,

Bill

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maccmedalman

Mark,

Apologies for joining this thread late but I've only just discovered the Forum.

In my collection I have a Trio and plaque to:

17615 Pte William Entwistle, 20th Manchester Regt.

KIA 3/9/1916.

Son of Arthur and Sarah Entwistle of Bury.

Also with this a pair to 29772 Pte John Entwistle Lanc Fus / Labour Corps. - he survived the war.

The 1901 census shows him residing at Parsons Lane, Bury.

I have taken a picture of William's grave at Caterpillar Valley Cemetery, Longueval. You can gladly have a copy if you wish.

Richard

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bigronhartley
pte james bolton

1st lancs fus

age 20

8246

trench mortar section

40 ???garden st,bury

missing since 1st july

pte charles holt

200626

2/5th lancs fus

age 24

20 goodlad st,woodfold,bury

missing since 19th june

pte john,f kay

public schools batt

ps/5148

old boy bury grammar

in hospital warrington

pte george smith

royal fus

bell lane,bury

in hospital at aldershot

thats the lot for now mark

bernard

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bigronhartley

Hello Bernard,

I would be most grateful for any information regarding the newspaper report relating to

pte john,f kay

public schools batt

ps/5148

old boy bury grammar

in hospital warrington

If there is anyone on this forum with access to the Bury Times, who would be willing to do a look up for me, I would be most appreciative. This is my first posting, I apologise for the earlier 'blank'.

Thanks, Ron

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Mark Hone

I have access to the Bury Times. As you may possibly have gathered I am the Head of History at Bury Grammar and the Memorial project has grown out of my ongoing research into the school's Roll of Honour. Do you have a personal connection with John F. Kay? I don't know much about him as yet, because he didn't die. He will be listed in our school records as one of the boys who served.

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bigronhartley

Hello Mark,

No I do not have a personal connection with John F. Kay, I have his 1915 Star Trio which I purchased many years ago from a friend who lives in Bury. I am from Whitefield originally, and attended Bury Junior Technical College and The Derby School (in its first year of opening 1959-60). I worked and lived in Bury for a number of years before moving to Leeds. Hence, my interest in men from Bury and the Lancs Fus. I hope you and your collaborators may be able to help. Good luck with your project.

Regards, Ron

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Mark Hone

Sorry about the inactivity on this thread. Overcoming various technical problems and pressures at school has delayed progress. We are now in sight of completing 1914-1916, which should include over 2,000 entries, mostly with photographs , fully searchable and eventually linked to the CWGC database. (Parts already are). As I explained 1916-1919 is more of a headache as the Bury Times stopped publishing its Memorial Book obituary anthologies after the 1916 volume, so we are having to go back to the original newspapers. The databse uses tags, so producing a definitive listing of e.g. all Bury men who died at Gallipoli or served in the Lancashire Fusiliers, or came from particular streets is possible.

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John_Hartley
eventually linked to the CWGC database. (Parts already are).

Mark

I may be wrong but I have it in mind there may be problem ahead for you.

I think I recall a thread from a couple of years back that discusssed the fact the CWGC periodically updates its database, changing data references in the process. I'm sure someone said that, last time, it had made a right mess of their own website (or records) which had links to men's commemoration pages.

John

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Mark Hone

Thanks, John. Luckily my computer expert did his pilot study of linking to the CWGC website after the latest update so all the links he did do work. I realise that there will be a problem if and when they update again. The CWGC does allow links to its site, so with the proliferation of local databases they should be made aware of this problem. Was it discussed at the recent get-together in Solihull?

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John_Hartley
Was it discussed at the recent get-together in Solihull?

Certainly not in the main sessions. But I think it's something folk should be aware of of before putting a big effort in.

Good to see your project coming on. I'm trying to encourage one of my local schools (Cheadle Hulme School) to use its memorial plaque as a teaching focus. If I get anywhere with them, I'll be needing your advice.

John

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Mark Hone

My pleasure John. Our Memorial has provided endless material for our school battlefield tours as well as regular teaching.

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Guest mruk

I found this in the Leeds Mercury and thought some of the lads and lassies with a connection to the 18th Lancashire Fusiliers would be interested. [The Leeds Mercury, Saturday, 16 November, 1918. p. 5]

THE LAST OF HIS COMPANY

News has come to hand of the death in the closing stages of the war, of Pte. James Mitchell, 2 Stone Street, Todmorden, who was the last man of his company of the original 18th Lancashire Fusiliers which went out to France at the commencement of the war.

He had been wounded three times. On the last occasion, although he had pieces of shrapnel embedded in his flesh which prevented the free use of his arms, he was once more certified fit and sent across the Channel. One brother has been killed, another partially blinded, and two others are still serving

Regards,

Dave

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delta

Mark - do you have anything on Fred Horrocks, born in Bury the son of Jeptha and Alice Horrocks,

He later lived in Bacup amd was KIA on 26 Sep 1916 serving with the Heavy Section of the Machine Gun Corps

Stephen

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johndavidswarbrick

I've just come across this thread - I have this man born in Bury from my Swarbrick database:

Swarbrick Thomas, 7/East Surrey Regiment, Private, 10217

Theatre of war: France

Date of entry therein: 13th July 1915

Additional Information from records WO 364 4047

Thomas Swarbrick pte 10271 East Surrey Regiment

9th East Surreys

Date of discharge 8-2-19 – transferred to the reserve

Enlisted 5-9-14

Date of origin of disability 16-10-18

Contusion of shoulder

Place of origin of disability – France

“Was blown up by a shell on 16-10-18 suffered from headaches at first: cough troublesome. Eye specialist considers headaches the result of concussion.”

Present condition [7-1-19] “Now feels fit apart from slight cough & intermittent headaches.”

Birthplace – Bury

Examined – 5th September 1914 at Rochdale

Declared age – 19

Trade – machinist

Height – 5 ft 4 ½ inches

Weight – 124 lbs

Chest – 34 ½ inches expansion 2 ½ inches

Discharged from Dispersal Hospital, Well Lane Military Hospital, West Didsbury 11-1-1919

Thomas Swarbrick was born in 1896 in Bury, the son of Reuben and Mary Alice [bromley] Swarbrick. In 1911 he was living with his parents in Slattocks, near Manchester and working as a labourer in the local calico bleach & dye works.

Dave Swarbrick

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